Usenet & Mailing Lists Lore

watchoutforthaticeberg

Version 0.05: February 2005

    

Usenet is not the real world.
It does not even resemble the real world.

(Revised by Kane in January 2005)
Adversus solem ne loquitor

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Pre-Introduction and Google's Usenet mask

I realised that we need a link to the even more older lore (Gopher) and one to google's usenet's search engine: google groups...

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Introduction

Usenet. Ah, yes, usenet, I remember... many many years ago, back in the winner of ninety-two, before the commercial invaders transformed the web in a tasteless soup, there already existed a global system of thousands of interest-based boards, called "newsgroups," that offered instant access to information and online community, as well as a quite effective system for trading executables, documents, sound and picture files: Usenet.

Usenet still exists, but it has largely faded into relative obscurity -proportionally- since the rise of the Web in the mid-'90s. Its exact proportions are anybody's guess, but it is calculated that the number of peple using Usenet (15-20 millions - end 2002) is only a quarter of the number of people using nowadays PRIVATE messageboards around the world (60-80 millions).
Most young readers have probably never even heard of Usenet. But that is a mistake: many of those that do post on Usenet are hugely informed, bright and opinionated netiziens. A good guide for beginners is Uzi Paz' usenet access guide.

Usenet will give you an incredible mass of micro-information, with mostly very useful results, especially for seeking, combing, klebing and stalking purposes. In fact the importance of usenet as huge repository of files, programs and ideas is so staggering that it does not wonder me that the big commercial powers of the web are actively trying to AVOID people using it.
Keep in mind -however- that usenet searching can be VERY time-consuming, and that some special skills are needed to perform it with an high degree of effectiveness.

To access 'correctly' usenet you should use news reader software which provides a convenient user interface in order to list, track and display the articles you may be interested in. The same software also allows composing and submitting new articles, should you want to contribute (or lure or troll). All you need to know is the newsserver machine name, which you will use to configure appropriately your software. There are many free versions of news reader software, moreover a news reader is built into many Internet Browsers. One of the best news readers is, imo, nomadnews, that has unfortunately a 25 days ~ limited use protection so simple that even a kid could bypass it (which also means that you'll easily find hundreds of "ready made cracks" for it all around the web... tsch tsch... when will programmers learn how to protect better their appz?).
Nomadnews' advantage is that it will automatically "reconstruct" multipart postings into one single file (which is of great use when downloading huge software applications, films, music and so on).

To peruse usenet, you must access a news server, which is nothing else than a computer system which provides shared storage for Usenet articles. Usenet must use "shared storage" because its total volume is truly HUGE. Instead of requiring each reader to obtain and store 200,000 articles in 2 GBytes per day, the articles can be kept in a central location and thus can be "shared" by many readers.
This sharing works in the following way: when you request to read an article, a copy is sent from the server to your news reader. After you read the first article and move onto the next, the copy is usually discarded, so it does not take up space on your computer.
In most cases, news servers are accessed using the Internet, but they can be accessed over a LAN, if such a news server exists on the LAN.
Note that most internet service subscribtions include access to a news server which you can use for free. In order to make profit, many news servers are not open to the general public (ahem... in theory :-) in fact in recent years they have been more and more commercially "bastardized" for exclusive use by "customers".
I will list here various links that you can use to peruse usenet and to access usenet "on the fly" during your queries.

Be aware of some typical usenet "quirks": Each server has ONLY A PART of the total articles. Your news reader can only display articles which are present on the news server you access. If an article is not present on the server, it is because either that article has never arrived at your server, or it has been cancelled, or else it has expired.
Because there is a limited amount of storage on a local news server, articles "must" expire. But fortunately, the accumulated body of information of Usenet is not lost: There are a number of WWW sites which archive and index Usenet articles. Thus you can retrieve posts which have expired (or perhaps had not even arrived) at your local news server.
Instead of asking a question in a news group, you can use the Usenet archives to retrieve articles which discussed your question long ago.
By searching first and posting questions only if you find no answers, everyone will be much happier (this is valid for messageboards as well, btw :-)
Searching first you will get an answer faster. You don't have to wait for your message to reach the far corners of the world. You don't have to rely on someone nice enough to write a reply. Perhaps those in the know aren't listening right now, even if they answered the same question in depth in the past.
Searching offers an added advantage: you will also find the groups which have an interest in your topic. Do not underestimate it. So if you cannot find the answer in the archived messages, you will have a good starting place to ask questions.

A final word of WARNING: there are a series of anonymity concerns that you should consider when posting on usenet. Visit my [anonymity] section or read directly my [When posting on Usenet] snippet.

We will examine'general' newsgroups repositories, but remember that there are also many 'specific' usenet repositories (which are of course time-limited). For instance, say, the slick Austrian small 15-days repository for [software reversing newsgroups] or -as Giglio points in his '[Zen of porn-images searching]' some huge 10-days repositories for all sort of erotic (and non-erotic) newsgroups à la Guba.
See [the importance of names] to understand why these repositories can be QUITE useful, just delivering you all the necessary 'angles' (and names) for your searches and queries... even in those rare cases where you should not manage to get inside them for good simply guessing, finding or passwording your entrance :-).

Ach... I almost forgot... THIS interesting attempt to create a [Usenet 2] could help you understand some of the topics involved...


 

USENET Clients

 

Name
Platform
NZB Support
License
Comment
BNR2/BNR3
Windows & GNU/Linux
Yes

Freeware

One of the better freeware binary leechers. It's one drawback is the database corrupts on groups with a large amount of headers. This is being fixed in BNR3 by porting to the database to sqlite.
NewsLeecher
Windows
Yes
Shareware
One of the only clients capable of managing header downloads in the millions. While being one of the most capable binary downloaders, this client is malware. So if you plan to use it, make sure you block its outgoing to anything but your news server.
Xnews
Windows
No
Freeware
A freeware client that is mostly suited to reading text posts, but is also suited to light binary downloading such as JPG's.
nget
Windows & GNU/Linux
No
Freeware (GPL) nget is a command line nntp file grabber If used with external scripting languages such as BASH or PERL, can become a powerful automated robot.

USENET Tools

 

Name
Platform
License
Comment
NZB-O-Matic
Windows
Freeware
NZB-O-Matic is an easy to use, free, multi-server usenet NZB download program.
nzbget
GNU/Linux & UNIX Variants
Freeware (GPL)
A command-line based binary newsgrabber for Linux, Unix and MacOS X supporting nzb-files.

Search Engines

[USENET Search Engines] [Mailing List Search Engines]

USENET Search Engines

Binary Search Engines

[BinSearch] [Binaries.nl] [NewzSearch]

NFO Search Engines

[NFO.ngindex]


BinSearch.info

When used in conjunction with a NZB downloading tool, it can save hours of time downloading from other mediums such as P2P through its on the fly NZB creation.

Query example: combat

You can also browse groups

Results per page:
search subject/filename search body (yEnc .nfo only)

   
  sole1     
VERY
Precious
Item

 


Binaries.nl

Binaries.nl has been around for a lot longer than BinSearch, and has NZB capabilities too, but cannot on the fly create NZB files from a search.

A nice one for perusing and searching binaries... Browse by Topic: Diverse - Games - Movies - MP3 - Software

Results per page

 


NewzSearch
(Form provided by berne, february 2003)


Search: all words, any word

Search in apps, mp3s, movies
Group by newsgroup

 


NFO.ngindex

Search:

Match: Sort by: Per Page: Archive:

 

Mailing List Search Engines

[ListTool] | [Catalist]


Listtool
You can search for mailing and discussion lists by keyword

Keywords:

 


Catalist
You can search for mailing and discussion lists by name or host name

Powerful tool: you can search for multiple topics by separating them with a comma. For instance, a search on "search,hints" will return all the entries containing the word "search" (also "research" too) OR the word "classical". To search for a topic that actually contains a comma, type two commas in a row.

http://www.lsoft.com/lists/list_q.html Catalist

Look for:  
In:
List name Host name List title
Lists with web archive interface only

Resources
[Specialised News Servers]
[Open Server Lists & Free NNTP]
[Commercial Server Reviews]
[Misc Resourcs]

Specialised News Servers

 

Address
Port
Comment
Gibson Research Newsgroups
119
Mostly useful for spyware discussion. Average poster is not very experienced.
Opera Web Browser Newsgroups
119
A wealth of information for browser features/customisation. See also the forums.
Mozilla Browsers Newsgroups
119
Discussion for Mozilla development.
PHP Newsgroups
119
PHP news and implementation.

 

Open Server Lists & Free NNTP Browsing

[Open Server Lists] [Free Newsgroup Browsing]


FAQ on Open News Servers

Name
Comment
NewzBot
One of the longest running and most reliable open server reporting websites around.
Triceron
Large list of easily parsable open servers.
MaxBaud
Another long running open server website. Also hosts many other USENET tools.

 


 

Name
Comment
Spaceports
Browse text newsgroups free on the web.
mail2web
usenet.mail2web.com lets you to read your usenet newsgroups through an elagant web interface.

 

Commercial Server Reviews

 

Name
Comment
smr-usenet
A quick index to compare one usenet provider to another in some of the major categories

Misc Resources

 

Name
Comment
USENET Replayer
Free tools include: news resources archive, web news server, send questions to news groups, news server searching. Requires a valid email to sign up, use a throw away or a spam.la.
Triceron
USENET portal. Has lists of open servers, software, server comparisons and more.
NGindex
Commercial crap at its finest. Yet check the "Free Sections" part.
USENET Portal
Large portal dealing with all areas of netiquette to NNTP programming.
NewzBin
Newzbin is a service that is dedicated to indexing the ever-changing contents of Usenet.
Tile.net
Comprehensive newsgroup reference list by Hierarchy.

 

Forums

 

Name
Comment
NewzBin Forums
Large forum dealing with new usenet software, provider discussion and general technical help.

 

USENET Related Essays
The Zen of porn-images searching
by ~S~ Giglio
How to get to newsgroups
by ~S~ gs

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